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The writings of James Madison,

comprising his public papers and his private correspondence, including numerous letters and documents now for the first time printed.
  
  
  
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TO CALEB WALLACE.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  


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TO CALEB WALLACE.[39]

MAD. MSS.

Dr Sir,—Your favour of the 12th of July was safely
delivered to me by Mr. Craig. I accept with pleasure
your proposed exchange of Western for Eastern
intelligence and though I am a stranger to parental
ties can sufficiently conceive the happiness of which
they are a source to congratulate you on your possession
of two fine sons & a Daughter. I do not smile
at the Idea of transplanting myself into your wilderness.
Such a change of my abode is not indeed probable
yet I have no Local partialities which can keep
me from any place which promises the greatest real
advantages, but if such a removal was not even possible
I should nevertheless be ready to communicate as
you desire my Ideas towards a constitution of Government
for the State in embryo. I pass over the
general policy of the measure which calls for such a
provision. It has been unanimously embraced by
those who being most interested in it must have best
considered it, & will I dare say be with equal unanimity
acceded to by the other party which is to be
consulted. I will first offer some general remarks on
the Subject, & then answer your several queries.


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    1.

  • The Legislative Department ought by all means,
    as I think to include a Senate constituted on such
    principles as will give wisdom and steadiness to legislation.
    The want of these qualities is the grievance
    complained of in all our republics. The want of
    fidelity in the administration of power having been
    the grievance felt under most Governments, and by
    the American States themselves under the British
    Government, it was natural for them to give too exclusive
    an attention to this primary attribute. The
    Senate of Maryland with a few amendments is a
    good model. Trial has I am told verified the expectations
    from it. A Similar one made a part of
    our constitution as it was originally proposed but the
    inexperience & jealousy of our then Councils, rejected
    it in favor of our present Senate a worse could
    hardly have been substituted & yet, bad as it is, it is
    often a useful bit in the mouth of the house of Delegates.
    Not a single Session passes without instances
    of sudden resolutions by the latter of which they repent
    in time to intercede privately with the Senate
    for their Negative. For the other branch models
    enough may be found care ought however to be taken
    against its becoming too numerous, by fixing the
    number which it is never to exceed. The quorum,
    wages, and privileges of both branches ought also to
    be fixed. A majority seems to be the natural quorum.
    The wages of the members may be made payable
    for—years to come in the medium value of wheat
    for years preceding as the same shall from period to
    period be rated by a respectable Jury appointed for


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    that purpose by the Supreme Court. The privileges
    of the members ought not in my opinion to extend
    beyond an exemption of their persons and equipage
    from arrests during the time of their actual service.
    If it were possible it would be well to define the
    extent of the Legislative power but the nature of it
    seems in many respects to be indefinite. It is very
    practicable however to enumerate the essential exceptions.
    The Constitution may expressly restrain
    them from medling with religion—from abolishing
    Juries—from taking away the Habeas corpus—from
    forcing a citizen to give evidence against himself—
    from controuling the press—from enacting retrospective
    laws at least in criminal cases, from abridging
    the right of suffrage, from taking private property
    for public use without paying its full Value from
    licensing the importation of Slaves, from infringing
    the confederation, &c &c.

    As a further security against fluctuating & indigested
    laws the Constitution of New York has provided
    a Council of Revision. I approve much of
    such an institution & believe it is considered by the
    most intelligent citizens of that State as a valuable
    safeguard both to public interests & to private rights.
    Another provision has been suggested for preserving
    System in Legislative proceedings which to some may
    appear still better. It is that a standing committee
    composed of a few select & skilful individuals should
    be appointed to prepare bills on all subjects which
    they may judge proper to be submitted to the Legislature
    at their meetings & to draw bills for them


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    during their Sessions. As an antidote both to the
    jealousy & danger of their acquiring an improper
    influence they might be made incapable of holding
    any other Office Legislative, Executive, or Judiciary.
    I like this Suggestion so much that I have had
    thoughts of proposing it to our Assembly, who give
    almost as many proofs as they pass laws of their
    need of some such Assistance.

  • 2

  • The Executive Department. Though it claims
    the 2d place is not in my estimation entitled to it by its
    importance all the great powers which are properly executive
    being transferred to the fœderal Government.
    I have made up no final opinion whether the first Magistrate
    should be chosen by the Legislature or the people
    at large or whether the power should be vested in
    one man assisted by a council or in a council of which
    the President shall be only primus inter pares. There
    are examples of each in the U. States and probably
    advantages & disadvantages attending each. It is
    material I think that the number of members should
    be small & that their Salaries should be either unalterable
    by the Legislature or alterable only in such
    manner as will not affect any individual in place.
    Our Executive is the worst part of a bad Constitution.
    The Members of it are dependent on the Legislature
    not only for their wages but for their reputation
    and therefore are not likely to withstand usurpations
    of that branch; they are besides too numerous and
    expensive, their organization vague & perplexed & to
    crown the absurdity some of the members may without
    any new appointment continue in Office for life


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    contrary to one of the Articles of the Declaration of
    Rights.

  • 3d

  • The Judiciary Department merits every care
    Its efficacy is Demonstrated in G. Brittain where it
    maintains private Right against all the corruptions of
    the two other departments & gives a reputation to
    the whole Government which it is not in itself entitled
    to. The main points to be attended to are 1. that
    the Judges should hold their places during good behavior
    2. that their Salaries should be either fixed like
    the wages of the Representatives or not be alterable
    so as to affect the Individuals in office. 3 that their
    Salaries be liberal The first point is obvious; without
    the second the independence aimed at by the first
    will be ideal only; without the 3d the bar will be
    superior to the bench which destroys all security for a
    Systematick administration of Justice after securing
    these essential points, I should think it unadvisable
    to descend so far into detail as to bar any future
    Modification of this department which experience
    may recommend An enumeration of the Principal
    courts with Power to the Legislature to Institute
    inferior Courts may suffice. The Admiralty business
    can never be extensive in your situation and may be
    referred to one of the other Courts. With regard to
    a Court of Chancery as distinct from a Court of Law,
    the reasons of Lord Bacon on the affirmative side
    outweigh in my Judgment those of Lord Kaims on
    the other side. Yet I should think it best to leave
    this important question to be decided by future lights
    without tying the hands of the Legislature one way


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    or the other. I consider our county courts as on a
    bad footing and would never myself consent to copy
    them into another constitution.

All the States seem to have seen the necessity of
providing for Impeachments but none of them to
have hit on an unexceptionable Tribunal. In some
the trial is referred to the Senate in others to the
Executive, in others to the Judiciary department it
has been suggested that a tribunal composed of members
from each Department would be better than
either and I entirely concur in that opinion. I proceed
next to your queries.

    1.

  • "Whether is a representation according to num"
    bers, or property, or in a joint proportion to both,
    " the most Safe? or is a representation by counties
    " preferable to a more equitable mode that will be diffi"cult
    to adjust?" Under this question may be considered
    1. the right of Suffrage. 2 the mode of
    suffrage. 3 the Plan of representation As to the
    1. I think the extent which ought to be given to this
    right a matter of great delicacy and of critical importance.
    To restrain it to the land holders will in
    time exclude too great a proportion of citizens; to
    extend it to all citizens without regard to property, or
    even to all who possess a pittance may throw too
    much power into hands which will either abuse it
    themselves or sell it to the rich who will abuse it. I
    have thought it might be a good middle course to
    narrow this right in the choice of the least popular,
    & to enlarge it in that of the more popular branch
    of the Legislature. There is an example of this


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    Distinction in N. Carolina if in none of the other States.
    How it operates or is relished by the people I cannot
    say. It would not be surprising if in the outset at
    least it should offend the sense of equality which
    reigns in a free Country. In a general view I see
    no reason why the rights of property which chiefly
    bears the burden of Government & is so much an
    object of Legislation should not be respected as well
    as personal rights in the choice of Rulers. It must
    be owned indeed that property will give influence to
    the holder though it should give him no legal privileges
    and will in general be safe on that as well as on
    other Accounts especially if the business of legislation
    be guarded with the provisions hinted at 2 As to
    the mode of suffrage I lean strongly to that of the ballot,
    notwithstanding the objections which lie against
    it It appears to me to be the only radical cure for
    those arts of Electioneering which poison the very
    fountain of Liberty The States in which the Ballott
    has been the Standing mode are the only instances in
    which elections are tolerably chaste and those arts in
    disgrace. If it should be thought improper to fix
    this mode by the constitution I should think it at
    least necessary to avoid any constitutional bar to a
    future adoption of it[40] 3 By the Plan of representation
    I mean 1. the classing of the Electors 2 the
    proportioning of the representatives to each class.
    The first cannot be otherwise done than by geographical
    description as by Counties. The second may

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    easily be done in the first instance either by comprising
    within each county an equal number of electors;
    or by proportioning the number of representatives of
    each county to its number of electors The difficulty
    arises from the disproportionate increase of electors
    in different Counties. There seem to be two methods
    only by which the representation can be equalized
    from time to time. The 1 is to change the bounds
    of the counties; the 2d. to change the number of representatives
    allotted to them respectively, as the
    former would not only be most troublesome & expensive
    but would involve a variety of other adjustments
    the latter method is evidently the best. Examples
    of a Constitutional provision for it exists in
    several of the States. In some it is to be executed
    periodically in others, pro-re nata. The latter seems
    most accurate and very practicable I have already
    intimated the propriety of fixing the number of representatives,
    which ought never to be exceeded I should
    suppose 150 or even 100, might safely be made the
    ne plus ultra for Kentucky

  • 2.

  • "Which is to be preferred an Annual, Triennial,
    "or Septennial Succession to Offices or frequent elec"tions
    without limitations in choice or that officers
    "when chosen should continue quamdiu se bene ges"serint?"
    The rule ought no doubt to be different
    in the different Departments of power. For one part
    of the Legislature Annual Elections will I suppose
    be held indispensably though some of the ablest
    Statesmen & soundest Republicans in the U. States
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    departing from annual elections in this case lies in the
    want of some other natural term to limit the departure.
    For the other branch 4 or 5 years may be the
    period. For neither branch does it seem necessary
    or proper to prohibit an indefinite re-eligibility. With
    regard to the Executive if the elections be frequent
    & particularly if made as to any member of it by
    the people at large a re-eligibility cannot I think be
    objected to, if they be unfrequent, a temporary or
    perpetual incapacitation according to the degree of
    unfrequency at least in the case of the first Magistrate
    may not be amiss. As to the Judiciary department
    enough has been said & as to the Subordinate
    officers civil & Military nothing need be said more
    than that a regulation of their appointments may
    under a few restrictions be safely trusted to the
    Legislature.

  • 3

  • "How far may the same person with propriety
    "be employed in the different departments of Gov"ernment
    in an infant country where the counsel of
    "every individual may be needed?" Temporary deviations
    from fundamental principles are always more
    or less dangerous. When the first pretext fails, those
    who become interested in prolonging the evil will
    rarely be at a loss for other pretexts. The first
    precedent too familiarises the people to the irregularity,
    lessens their veneration for those fundamental
    principles, & makes them a more easy prey to ambition
    & self Interest. Hence it is that abuses of
    every kind when once established have been so often
    found to perpetuate themselves. In this caution


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    I refer chiefly to an improper mixture of the three
    great Departments within the State. A Delegation
    to Congress is I conceive compatible with either.

  • 4

  • "Should there be a periodical review of the
    Constitution?" Nothing appears more elegible in
    theory nor has sufficient trial perhaps been yet
    made to condemn it in practice. Pennsylvania has
    alone adopted the expedient. Her citizens are much
    divided on the subject of their Constitution in general
    & probably on this part of it in particular. I am
    inclined to think though am far from being certain,
    that it is not a favorite part even with those who
    are fondest of their Constitution. another plan
    has been thought of which might perhaps Succeed
    better and would at the same time be a safeguard to
    the equilibrium of the constituent Departments of
    Government. This is that a Majority of any two
    of the three departments should have authority to
    call a plenipotentiary convention whenever they may
    think their constitutional powers have been Violated
    by the other Department or that any material part
    of the Constitution needs amendment In your situation
    I should think it both imprudent & indecent not
    to leave a door open for at least one revision of your
    first Establishment, imprudent because you have
    neither the same resources for supporting nor the
    same lights for framing a good establishment now
    as you will have 15 or 20 Years hence, indecent
    because an handful of early settlers ought not to preclude
    a populous Country from a choice of the Government
    under which they & their posterity are to live.


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    Should your first Constitution be made thus temporary
    the objections against an intermediate union of offices
    will be proportionably lessened. Should a revision
    of it not be made thus necessary & certain there
    will be little probability of its being ever revised.
    Faulty as our Constitution is as well with regard to
    the Authority which formed it as to the manner in
    which it is formed the Issue of an experiment has
    taught us the difficulty of amending it: & although
    the issue might have proceeded from the unseasonableness
    of the time yet it may be questioned whether
    at any future time the greater depth to which it will
    have stricken its roots will not counterbalance any
    more auspicious circumstances for overturning it.

  • 5 & 6

  • "Or will it be better unalterably to fix
    "some leading Principles in Government and make
    "it consistant for the Legislature to introduce such
    "changes in lesser matters as may become expedi"ent?
    can censors be provided that will impartially
    "point out deficiencies in the Constitution & the
    "Violations that may happen"

Answers on these points may be gathered from
what has been already said.

I have been led to offer my sentiments in this
loose form rather than to attempt a delineation of
such a Plan of government as would please myself
not only by my Ignorance of many local circumstances
& opinions which must be consulted in such
a work but also by the want of sufficient time for it.
At the receipt of your letter I had other employment
and what I now write is in the midst of preparations


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for a Journey of business which will carry me as far
as Philadelphia at least & on which I shall set out in
a day or two.

I am sorry that it is not in my power to give you
some satisfactory information concerning the Mississippi.
A Minister from Spain has been with Congress
for some time & is authorised as I understand
to treat on whatever subjects may concern the
two nations. If any explanations or propositions
have passed between him & the Minister of Congress,
they are as yet in the list of Cabinet Secrets,
as soon as any such shall be made Public & come to
my knowledge, I shall take the first opportunity of
transmitting them. Wishing you & your family all
happiness,

I am, Dr Sir,
Your friend & servant.
The Constitutions of the several States were printed
in a small Volume a year or two ago by order of
Congs a perusal of them need not be recommended
to you. Having but a single copy I cannot supply you
It is not improbable that you may be already possessed
of one. The revisal of our laws by Jefferson,
Wythe & Pendleton beside their Value in improving
the legal code may suggest something worthy of being
attended to in framing a Constitution.
 
[39]

Several of Madison's friends in Kentucky wrote to him asking his assistance
in the framing of a new government. January 6, 1785, George Muter transmitted
questions which Caleb Wallace wished answered, which were the same
as those answered above. In the MSS. this letter is not addressed, and is
marked as having been sent to "John Brown, Kentucky," but Sept. 24, 1785,
Caleb Wallace replied to it as a letter to him, which doubtless it was.—Mad.
MSS.

[40]

The Constitution of N. York directs an experiment on this Subject. [Note
in MS.]