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To Master Samuel Daniel.
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To Master Samuel Daniel.
Eclogue. 4.
Deliuorus. Felicius.Deliuorus.
Felicius
, nourish not these sullen vaines,
Liue not, as if thou lothedst to impart
Vnto the world thy wisdome and thine art:
Vertue obscur'd, yeelds small, and sory gaines
But actiuely imployd, true worth retaines:
Liue not, as if thou lothedst to impart
Vnto the world thy wisdome and thine art:
Vertue obscur'd, yeelds small, and sory gaines
But actiuely imployd, true worth retaines:
Now clattering armes sound terror in our coast,
Like aged Nestor guirt thee in thy steele,
Win fame by valour, let impugners feele,
That though sweete Mercurie delights thee most,
Thy courage, with thy yeares, thou hast not lost:
Like aged Nestor guirt thee in thy steele,
Win fame by valour, let impugners feele,
That though sweete Mercurie delights thee most,
Thy courage, with thy yeares, thou hast not lost:
Felicius.
Eld is ordain'd to counsell, youth to fight;
Age to fore-see, young courage to enact,
High courage with true wisdome euer backt,
Winnes perfect fame: youth doth deserue by might,
But old age, by good counsell, and foresight.
Age to fore-see, young courage to enact,
High courage with true wisdome euer backt,
Winnes perfect fame: youth doth deserue by might,
But old age, by good counsell, and foresight.
Deliuorus, when as thou dost beholde
Felicius sitte apart, be thou assur'd
His mind still works: and what thou hast endur'd
In bloudie brunts, the same though being olde
He doth endure, and more a hundreth folde.
Felicius sitte apart, be thou assur'd
His mind still works: and what thou hast endur'd
In bloudie brunts, the same though being olde
He doth endure, and more a hundreth folde.
I trauaile in my soule, when thou doest sleepe
I for my countrie combate by fore-cast,
And how by day, the danger shall be past
By night I studie: Thus by care I keepe,
What hed-strong youth might loose, & loosing weepe.
I for my countrie combate by fore-cast,
And how by day, the danger shall be past
By night I studie: Thus by care I keepe,
What hed-strong youth might loose, & loosing weepe.
I liue not then obscurely, as I seeme,
But as the master of the ship performes
Far more then cōmon yonkers in great stormes,
So guiding of our states well may I deeme,
I doe, and merite more, then most esteeme:
But as the master of the ship performes
Far more then cōmon yonkers in great stormes,
So guiding of our states well may I deeme,
I doe, and merite more, then most esteeme:
Deliuorus.
As if a life deuoted vnto ease,
And mannaging affaires by policie,
Might be compar'd for worth, & dignitie
With honorable armes, by land and seas?
Felicius.
Why not (sweet friend) yeeld reason if you please?
Whom euer did the rising sunne behold
More royalliz'd, and dignified then him,
Whose glorie, (though fell fortune sought to dim)
His courage rais'd, his conquests manifold,
Commaunding all, himselfe still vncontrol'd?
More royalliz'd, and dignified then him,
Whose glorie, (though fell fortune sought to dim)
His courage rais'd, his conquests manifold,
Commaunding all, himselfe still vncontrol'd?
By armes, Realmes, Empires, monarchies are wonne,
To armes, lawes, iustice, magistrates submit,
Arts, sciences, before their triumphes sit,
And beg their grace, and sing what they haue done,
Amas'd to see the race, which they haue runne.
To armes, lawes, iustice, magistrates submit,
Arts, sciences, before their triumphes sit,
And beg their grace, and sing what they haue done,
Amas'd to see the race, which they haue runne.
Felicius.
Deliuorus, warre, honour doth deserue,
Yet counsell in all kingdomes policied
Is farre more worthie, and more dignified:
For armes, but in extreames doe neuer serue
To reconcile, and punish such as swerue.
Yet counsell in all kingdomes policied
Is farre more worthie, and more dignified:
For armes, but in extreames doe neuer serue
To reconcile, and punish such as swerue.
First haue an eie to Grecian gouernements,
And euen in them, the truth will be explain'd:
In Athens, where Themistocles remain'd,
Though much he conquer'd by his regiments,
Yet Solon, was more prais'd for his intents:
And euen in them, the truth will be explain'd:
In Athens, where Themistocles remain'd,
Though much he conquer'd by his regiments,
Yet Solon, was more prais'd for his intents:
Themistocles, by armes; he by good lawes:
One, conquered foes, the other planted frends;
One got the wealth, the which the other spends,
Both fame: though not like measure, nor like cause:
For counsell to it selfe more honour drawes.
One, conquered foes, the other planted frends;
One got the wealth, the which the other spends,
Both fame: though not like measure, nor like cause:
For counsell to it selfe more honour drawes.
Pausanias, and Lysander by their swords,
And warlike vertues, made Laocena ritch,
Fame followed them where they their tents did pitch,
But graue Licurgus, by his lawes and words,
Did merite more, then these renowmed Lords,
And warlike vertues, made Laocena ritch,
Fame followed them where they their tents did pitch,
But graue Licurgus, by his lawes and words,
Did merite more, then these renowmed Lords,
Though these attempted, he prefixt the way,
Though they commanded, and arraung'd the bands,
Licurgus put the fortune in their hands:
Though Marius could begin, and make the fray,
Yet Scaurus policie deserues the bay:
Though they commanded, and arraung'd the bands,
Licurgus put the fortune in their hands:
Though Marius could begin, and make the fray,
Yet Scaurus policie deserues the bay:
Let Catulus, with Pompey be compar'd,
Or wittie Cicero, with Cateline:
And to preuent with policie diuine
That which the other ouer rashlie dar'd,
Deserues such fame as may not be impar'd.
Or wittie Cicero, with Cateline:
And to preuent with policie diuine
That which the other ouer rashlie dar'd,
Deserues such fame as may not be impar'd.
Say militarie vertue doth require
A valiant hart, great strength, and constancie:
The selfe-like guiftes in ciuill policie
Are requisite for such as doe aspire,
To gaine renowne by counsell for their hire:
A valiant hart, great strength, and constancie:
The selfe-like guiftes in ciuill policie
Are requisite for such as doe aspire,
To gaine renowne by counsell for their hire:
In briefe, for what is warre ordain'd but peace?
And perfect peace is end of bloudie warre:
And sith the ends, fore-meanes, is prised farre;
Let warre, his boast of dignitie surcease
And yeeld to wisdome, which doth peace encrease.
And perfect peace is end of bloudie warre:
And sith the ends, fore-meanes, is prised farre;
Let warre, his boast of dignitie surcease
And yeeld to wisdome, which doth peace encrease.
Peace, doth depend on Reason, warre on force,
The one is humane, honest, and vpright,
The other brutish, fostered by despight:
The one extreame, concluded with remorse,
The other all iniustice doth deuorce.
The one is humane, honest, and vpright,
The other brutish, fostered by despight:
The one extreame, concluded with remorse,
The other all iniustice doth deuorce.
Deliuorus.
Felicius thy reasons are approu'd
(If measured by the square of statemens skil,
Who on their bookes hang their opinions still)
But I, who from my youth the warres haue lou'd,
From mine opinion may not be remou'd.
(If measured by the square of statemens skil,
Who on their bookes hang their opinions still)
But I, who from my youth the warres haue lou'd,
From mine opinion may not be remou'd.
For by that methode which my selfe haue tried
I find such word-bold warriors as you be
As fit for warre, as apes for minstralsie:
For what can you prescribe, or els prouide,
To order those, whom you could neuer guide?
I find such word-bold warriors as you be
As fit for warre, as apes for minstralsie:
For what can you prescribe, or els prouide,
To order those, whom you could neuer guide?
Thinke you Vigetius serues to make you fit
To giue directions to a generall?
No book-men no, time now hath changed all,
Both men, and meanes: war craues a greater wit
And courage, then when Rome directed it:
To giue directions to a generall?
No book-men no, time now hath changed all,
Both men, and meanes: war craues a greater wit
And courage, then when Rome directed it:
Should we exspect, (as erst the Romaines did)
Instructions to dislodge, encampe, assaile,
Before we did endeuour to preuaile,
The meanes to conquer would be lost, and hid:
Basely fights he who warres as others bid.
Instructions to dislodge, encampe, assaile,
Before we did endeuour to preuaile,
The meanes to conquer would be lost, and hid:
Basely fights he who warres as others bid.
All things are chang'd, the meanes, the men and armes,
Our stratagems now differ from the old,
Expert in booke, was neuer trulie bold,
Demosthenes, whose tongue the souldier charmes,
Fled coward-like away in hot alarmes.
Our stratagems now differ from the old,
Expert in booke, was neuer trulie bold,
Demosthenes, whose tongue the souldier charmes,
Fled coward-like away in hot alarmes.
This said, he ceast, and would no more proceed,
Felicius left him setled in his thought,
I, hearing both the reasons they had brought,
Resolu'd that both deserue true fame indeed,
And pray that wit may thriue, & war may speed.
Felicius left him setled in his thought,
I, hearing both the reasons they had brought,
Resolu'd that both deserue true fame indeed,
And pray that wit may thriue, & war may speed.
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